| Warriors are the masters of armed combat in all its many forms. They are right at home on the battlefield and are trained to take as much punishment as they dole out, because of their innately strong constitutions. “A warrior is not made,” they say, “a warrior is born,” and so it is. Those who prove themselves to be hardier than others are perfectly suited for the rigors of this class. Though slow to regain their considerable health when injured, warriors are excellent companions for healer types. Only the Erudites do not produce warriors. |
What's going on? Anybody out there?
53 War - Koveras - 6228/ 3046ac (self-buffed)
51 Nec - Ulraunt
-=Ferran's Hope Server=-
Mulishax 60 Defender
Kerecktoo 60 Spellbinder
Fuzzania 60 Defiler
kkek 60 elder
oldrice 56 druid
newrice 55 sensei
CLW RePrEsEnT!
First, a little backround so you understand me better.
I was lvl 30, had regular cheap str/hp armor, no wereform, no lvl 30 path, no super rare weapons, yet i still was an awesome dueler. I took down many duelers who were supposedly good once i got to lvls 28-30, i even managed to kill a 35 pally, 38 rge, and other tanks 2-3 lvls higher than me. and note that most of the ppl i fought did have theyre 30 path, did have either rare of hba armor, and at least 50% of them had a wereform.
And for those who say duelers cant tank for sh1t? wrong. Yes we cant do just as well as a true mt but, if built right, we can tank hella good. And i know cuz pretty much my healer in pretty much all of the groups ive had told me i was one of theyre best tankers.
Race: most people say it doesnt matter, but i dont think a gnome war can stand up to an ogre (if there is any gnome war who owns, sorry). I picked an ogre for my dueler. Ogres have one of the best racial cms for a dueling warrior, including punch, and good hp+. I think Ogres, trolls, humans, and maybe barbs make the best dueling warriors. For the other races, theyre racial cm's just dont fit for a good dueling warr.
Build: there are many builds out there for duelers but mine was simply str/sta, both evenly distributed. i also pumped up agi to 100 for defense and cms. To me, dex is useless, unless someone has proof that dex will help u in a duel(for a warrior).
Gear: i didnt have any money for rare lvl 20-30ish or hba...yet i still dominated the dueling arena. I simply used enstatite(str/sta?) and str/hp jewelry. My friend told me that 2H is the best wep before lvl 35, but i still did well with two 1H, its pretty much all up to you. Shields? mabye if your fighting someone 5 levels lower than you or if youre a pally.
Spells/cms: just make sure you all of the crit cms, along with str,sta,hp cms too. And if your an ogre, dont forget about punch. Punch does awesome in duels and helps ALOT in holding aggro. I would just use my highest lvl taunt once, then kick/punch till the mob dies. i dont think i ever had a aggro problem once(the fact that my str was 365, which is max str at 30)
And people, thats why I think strength is the key to dueling(imo). Fully buffed, i had 365 str, 250ish sta, 120 agi, 2k ac, and i think around 2.5k hp...see, my sta,agi,ac,and hp were not the best but my str is what stood out and helped the most. And all that str not only raises your regular attack, but greatly on your spells.
My fighting teqnique would go something like this in a duel:
Buff with iron skin, and call to combat
15..
10..
5.......and about 2-1 secs left i use reckless(NOT controlled) force.
Start!
Attack
lvl 30 crit
lvl 20 crit
kick, stomp punch
quick strike
other strike
other strike
kick, stomp punch
maybe bellow
........then id keep on kick stomp punch and buffing w/ reckless force until my lvl 30 crit comes back, and, 95% of the time, that lvl 30 crit would be my final blow.
So pretty much my duels on average last about 40-60 secs long.
Anyway....i guess thats it, oh and dont forget to get as much as cms you can get. i had roughly 300 cms before i stopped playing the game.
So if any of you would like to say something,... do it.
Edited, Jul 27th 2006 at 9:57pm EDT by shanti
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
44 Shadowknight
31 Necromancer
32 Warrior (lost Acc)
58 Necromancer
PPO
No, ive beaten many toons higher than my wizzys LvL(50) that are built to duel...It jsut means you built your toon a sh*t load better lol. and most times there CM count and HP where many times higher than mine. but i still beat them.
My wizzys Hp(4325)...Hoping for 6K Hp at 60.
My Wizzys CM count( 480-485) cant remember which if those two, but its one.
Tag-Sage, getting it for SS and the 500 PoT tick.
Form-Lion, last one.
Once i get back ima rehab because when i first started the game, i was told by some noob to put Str onto my wizzy, well long story short, i eneded up having 20Str on it and all the TPS i put inot Wis and agi ima take off and add it to Dex/Sta..screw int, i have eneough once i hit 250Base for the tag req.....-This all happened when i was still a noob lol-
Duelers Can tank, but id much rather have a tank that is built to tank rather one built to do DMG, i can care less about the tank doing DMG, he/she is there for one pupose, take hits thats it, the DDs are there for DMG. but if your built for duels and your my tank, i dont care, tank away jsut dont get pissed when we wanna do oasis bandits and you havent the AC to handle them, thats why on my war, im waiting till i have 1k CMS to change to a pure dueler, i can just be a regular grind tank and soloer/dueler, for once i hit that with my tank ill probaly rarely grp again, itll be just -Help- when i start to dual box my grp set of toons, since all my toons on this accnt are for pure DMG/solo.
Edited, Aug 2nd 2006 at 10:19pm EDT by fistandantilus
well some times you are a little better, but if a 30war can stand up to a 38rg with the new updates they are pretty gimp. rges do serious dmg at a fast pace, a 35 rg almost KOed my 4k hp in the first few hits.
44 Shadowknight
31 Necromancer
32 Warrior (lost Acc)
58 Necromancer
PPO
well some times you are a little better, but if a 30war can stand up to a 38rg with the new updates they are pretty gimp. rges do serious dmg at a fast pace, a 35 rg almost KOed my 4k hp in the first few hits.
Rges are big push overs, they do burst of DMG not so much a constant steadyflow of high DMG, like a ran/BRD/MNK., the only reason that rge did alot to you is A) you have sh*tty CMS and agi. or B) that RGE was super powered, 500++ CMS. only one RGE on DH can beat me that 55 or below, and that was one 53RGE, with 790 CMS, i cant keep up with that lol. but his.her HP was decent but really bad for 790CMS, i took the rge down to one bar before it killed me.
Lol If I still played I would duel you. But only if you were 50+ I have no desire to duel toons below my lvl just to hear them say after words "Well, you ARE 5 or so lvls higher then me" Not saying you would.
But it's pointless to put how long your duels last. It does not matter in wizzy duels for they all last less then 5secs lol.
If I play again, let it be known I'm not a regular wizzy you may have dueled, I'm a duel wizzy. let me tell you how committed to duels I am with Fist, I oom at the end of most duels...LMAO. I can take a few hits. But then again you would probably own me in seconds no clue.
Fistandanti
50 wizard Lion
696cms
5871hp
max dmg.
Lost sage...
Happy huntings to you my dueling friend.
My main is a 60 Ber Rge. Forsberg FH
Once you hit 60 your duels wont ever last that long...wel I have had a couple go a min or so with wars
still a 38rge should KO a 30 war just cause of the lvl diff unless the rge has under 1000hp which is sorta gimp if he planned to duel. i have 355cms(duel oreinted) and 100agi... and besides the rge was owning all the others at the arena.
i thought AC affected melee dmg more
44 Shadowknight
31 Necromancer
32 Warrior (lost Acc)
58 Necromancer
PPO
Oh it does, but AGI helps it out, thats why alot of MT have 400++ AGI lol it helps out trust me. becawu they have mobs like oasis bandits htting them really freaking hard lol.
Oh it does, but AGI helps it out, thats why alot of MT have 400++ AGI lol it helps out trust me. becawu they have mobs like oasis bandits htting them really freaking hard lol.
Anyway so your war right now is an MT, im guessing so you can lvl up faster to reach your MC goals? Im still confused though, youre 1st going to become hero, then after your 1k cms, transfer to berserker? I havnt played for long but is that possible? Oh and if your going to become a Berserker dueler, i think you shouldnt have to worry about wis...berserkers are strictly offensive and since your goin to be a berserker, you wont really be MTing anymore i dont think, cuz wis is pretty much only for pure MTs, shammys and alcs :D But my main question is, do you wanna be a MT or a dueler?...or something else? So w/e your trying to accomplish i hope you acheive it :D
ps. good luck on 1k cms
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
Yeah im gonna be a Hero MT, very hard to do but its do-able.
Yeah, at 55 you get a rehab for everything(tps, cms) im just gonna hang on to that rehab till my 1k cm hit lol.
True, but i want a little wis, for ive dueled so many wars on my wizzy(50) with no wis, and ive always told myself id never be one of those wars that a wizzy could do 1k dmg with a gimp nuke lol..but im gonna own so bad lol i get a 5K heal insta lol thats freaking awesome lol, plus a ber gets alot of HP but loses alot of Def mods so it all evens out lol
Thanks its gonna take me so long but as soon as i hit 1k im going to MTG and rehabbing lol.
Yeah, at 55 you get a rehab for everything(tps, cms) im just gonna hang on to that rehab till my 1k cm hit lol.
oh yeahh forgot about rehab :D
Quote:
True, but i want a little wis, for ive dueled so many wars on my wizzy(50) with no wis, and ive always told myself id never be one of those wars that a wizzy could do 1k dmg with a gimp nuke lol..but im gonna own so bad lol i get a 5K heal insta lol thats freaking awesome lol, plus a ber gets alot of HP but loses alot of Def mods so it all evens out lol
im not trying to change your mind or anything... but even if you do add a little wis, keep in mind that its 1+ resist every 7 wisdom I think, it wont really help out much. For example, lets say you spent...30 tps on wis:
roughly 4+ resists, and you open cm line "Focus" (PoT), and your ranged attack (bows and crap) would be a lil stronger.
now if you added that 30 tps into str....your regular attack would be slightly stronger, same with your str-based spells(especially Heros Blow with 50% str mod, 5 sec recast), hold aggro a little better and also a little more mana cause str is your power pool stat.
If you really want that wis though, id reccomend using wis+ armor, which alot of high lvl MTs use.
Thats just my way of looking at it
Quote:
Yeah im gonna be a Hero MT, very hard to do but its do-able.
cool dont let anyone stop you :D
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
oh yeahh forgot about rehab :D
im trying to change your mind or anything... but even if you do add a little wis, keep in mind that its 1+ resist every 7 wisdom I think, it wont really help out much. For example, lets say you spent...30 tps on wis:
roughly 4+ resists, and you open cm line "Focus" (PoT), and your ranged attack (bows and crap) would be a lil stronger.
now if you added that 30 tps into str....your regular attack would be slightly stronger, same with your str-based spells(especially Heros Blow with 50% str mod, 5 sec recast), hold aggro a little better and also a little more mana cause str is your power pool stat.
If you really want that wis though, id reccomend using wis+ armor, which alot of high lvl MTs use.
Thats just my way of looking at it
cool dont let anyone stop you :D
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
im trying to change your mind or anything... but even if you do add a little wis, keep in mind that its 1+ resist every 7 wisdom I think, it wont really help out much. For example, lets say you spent...30 tps on wis:
roughly 4+ resists, and you open cm line "Focus" (PoT), and your ranged attack (bows and crap) would be a lil stronger.
now if you added that 30 tps into str....your regular attack would be slightly stronger, same with your str-based spells(especially Heros Blow with 50% str mod, 5 sec recast), hold aggro a little better and also a little more mana cause str is your power pool stat.
If you really want that wis though, id reccomend using wis+ armor, which alot of high lvl MTs use.
Thats just my way of looking at it
True, but im gonna buy it mainly in CMS, ill put as little as possible in with TPS.and with a Form you get that lycon Resist its like 25+ to all resist, so tho ill have alot less than any given MT ill still have enough to stand up to a wizzy(other casters) nuking my ass lol. Thanks for the advice tho really appreciate someone taking the time to type back lol.(im going WW too, i here thats a really good form to go for dueling)
cool dont let anyone stop you :D
Thanks, you wouldnt know how much sh*t i get for being a Hero MT, ppl telling me just go Def..lol well i dont want to go Def, theres way to many on DH lol i want to be different lol...All my toons are made or going to be made for Dueling only, (war-Berserker Sha-Elder Wizzy-Sage) I love to Duel :D
Edited, Jul 30th 2006 at 7:42pm EDT by fistandantilus
Thats cool, obviously your plan is well set for your warrior. And yeah ww is great, thats what i wanted my warr to go too, although i heard gator is also beast but also hard to get. Isnt BW the same as WW? i forgot lol
yeah dueling is the best :D, i wish i could still play my fatty war. I heard DWH is also good for shammy dueler.
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
The stats you get are the same but i think the LvL 40 ABIL is diff, ill have to look i have all the weres and there 40ability listed on the DH forum.
Yeah i heard the same thing but i love the polar bear look lol, plus it fits in with my HKS lol, my shammys name is Grumpybear..and most of the HKS i have are all about telling ppl to leave me alone..in a nice but funny way lol..Heres one..
---(Lifts leg on %4) Oh, sorry didnt see you there....Umm this is awkaward...yeah..(Backs away slowly)---
Lol i love that one lol
ok :D
lol, i had retarted hks like that on my warr.
i wonder if we ever stop replying lol
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
i wonder if we ever stop replying lol
Lol I have so many others i might be compelled to list them ALL! lol, if you want to see alot of other HKs, join the DH forums lol i made a topic all about HKS....and DUELING! lol...I just listed a bunch of bad tiimes and good times about dueling lol. lol ill keep replying if you keep typing lol.
I think my worst duel ever with my warr was...idk lol, i honestly never really lost badly to someone else around my lvl, all my losses were extrememly close duels lol.
and my best? i think i was lvl 24 and there was this dwarf war 25 w/ like all these lvl 20-25ish rare "uber" armor and weapons, and he was hanging out in the arena beating all these 20ish ppl, so i walk up to him, ask if he wants to duel, and everyone around him was like," LOL ur gonna lose so badly, this guy is a BEASt OMGZZ!!!" so im like w/e... we duel, i beat him with half my hp still remaining, and i didnt even use bellow lol.
I have many more great duels that i cant remember...just the fact that i beat alot of the great duelers on clw ,even though i didnt have all these stuff that they did.
Oh yeah i think i remember one my hks w/ my war: (its a stupid joke)
"Whats an Ogre's favorite gem?"
"Apatite!" :D lol retarted
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
For the "Best Soloer Class", i'd have to go with warrior, at lvl 30 i could easily take an fp guard and almost take down slagbreath lol. I personally think that a good dueler is a good soloer.
"worst group"- Me and 2 other tanks, and a bard at bandits lol we would argue who would pull and ended up being some delf sk, and he pulled like 3 bandits, bard died, sk died, i sprinted away, left group lol
"best dd"- wizard,ranger,monk,alc. rogue can do great damage, but its not constant. And of course cleric is best healer, but then again shammy and druids have spells that clerics dont have. and i think if you have a shammy, you shouldnt worry about healing high.
"alc vs. wizzy"- A cleric to healing is like a wizzy to damage dealing, no class can out-do them. but like shammys and druids, alcs have spells that wizzys dont, and like that one guy said i think alcs aoes are better too. Alcs can never go oom, ive played corectly. Alcs also have more debuffing spells, droughts, and other crap. And for PoT, pot its excellent for alcs, just not PoT spells that bards and enchs have, thats what messes up the droughts. Alcs can wear leather where wizzys cant, therfore, a little more defensive.
"sk vs. warrior in dmg"- sk is like a rogue, where he can dish out alot of dmg in a short period of time. warrior, w/ kick, stomp, and the strikes and crits, can dish out alot of damage over a long time.
"ranger vs rogue"- rogue for short bursts, ranger for grinding. so overall, if it was who could kill 1 mob faster, it would be rge.(this goes with sk and wizzy)
ive played a couple of mmorpgs, after eqoa ive been trying to find a new game. ones ive played so far: eqoa, kalonline, silkroad, dofus, rakion, flyff, and does gunbound count?
Edited, Jul 31st 2006 at 12:44pm EDT by shanti
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
Edited, Jul 31st 2006 at 2:43pm EDT by fistandantilus
I think my worst duel ever with my warr was...idk lol, i honestly never really lost badly to someone else around my lvl, all my losses were extrememly close duels lol.
and my best? i think i was lvl 24 and there was this dwarf war 25 w/ like all these lvl 20-25ish rare "uber" armor and weapons, and he was hanging out in the arena beating all these 20ish ppl, so i walk up to him, ask if he wants to duel, and everyone around him was like," LOL ur gonna lose so badly, this guy is a BEASt OMGZZ!!!" so im like w/e... we duel, i beat him with half my hp still remaining, and i didnt even use bellow lol.
I have many more great duels that i cant remember...just the fact that i beat alot of the great duelers on clw ,even though i didnt have all these stuff that they did.
Oh yeah i think i remember one my hks w/ my war: (its a stupid joke)
"Whats an Ogre's favorite gem?"
"Apatite!" :D lol retart
Yeah, i made a SK that was really good for its LvL, At tanking, then i just got really bored of him when i had to leave FP lol, i hate evil races, no offence to your ogre but i hate there coaches lol.
But i had a cpl times like that, on my wizzy ppl telling me ill lose badly then pwn that toon lol...i love it lol. and my wizzy doesnt have 'rare' stuff i just have alot of that 48-50 HP crap, but i do have a nice wep, its called aged blackjack its hand like 500+Dmg a lot of Dex on it lol, i hit on my wizzy about 300+..I know not a lot to your war but im a wizzy lol no str cept that 45str i have lol and im lion form on my dueling wizzy lol(last form) so the extra agi i get with the form really helps lol. i think the rarest thing i ever had on my war was a sandmauler lol and grimblade, i always had decent weps jsut for the fact i had my wizzy AoE farming at the low lvl camps for weps for me and friends lol. atm he still has on the 33HbA gear full set.
Lol thats funny, i like it........ Mind if i put it in with the other Hks on the DH forums?
Honestly i have no clue, Eqoa is my first 'MMorpgs'( i still dont know what that still means that mmorpg..i know role playing game, thats it LMAO) ill never play another online game i dont think lol. i made really good friends on this one.
i hate their coaches as much as you do lol
the rarest thing i had was a grimblade lol i have a sandmauler too but never got to use it.
nope
yeah mmorpg is massively multiplayer online role playing game, i never knew what it meant until i asked someone too lol. No wonder they abbreviated it :D
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
Lol -Evil eye- No i hate them more lol
Cool thanks lol
Ahh i see lol thanks lol
ok fine, maybe i like them a lil :D
.........nothing to say
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
Nope..............Lol.......I guess its time to Piss off someone on the General Forum lol.
The link to the DH forum is in my sig, if you wanna join the DH server and want to know how active this is come ask some questions you have there, or if you are a Vet come on in a share your knowledge with the rest of DH.
Edited, Jul 27th 2006 at 1:44pm EDT by fistandantilus
lvl 40 dark elf warrior with 2k hp an 1k ac
i got 250 cm points my 1st day i exp'ed in
was thinkin bout getting to 1k cm points before
actually growing in lvls.
base stats are
326str
200sta
180agi
280dex
100wis
2k hp
3k power
1k ac
why are my hp an ac so low?
and it will be hard to get 1k cms at 40ish lol my 60war has only 959 lol its sooo hard to get a cm now get it to like roundish 500+ then you will be perfect for you level than at 55 cm more
got a set od 48 hba lol n now im workin on black sapphire gems, i might make it to being half decent after all :)
Edited, Sat Apr 8 14:20:06 2006
Frograypir 50 Troll Warrior Bellow Path 0/620 CMs(Lion)
:-= Diren Hold =-:
Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.
base str 150, stam 370, agl 260, everything eles is untouched and i went the heal path and i want defender and i am bearwere
Edited, Mon Feb 20 11:56:15 2006
55 barb war
clw
and the agi is to high to lol, drop agi to about 200, than with the tps you take out of agi and sta put it in wisdom...wis is resist and if you want to be a MT youll need a healthy dose of Wis.
good choice with the def tag.
I'm a lvl 31 war, Bellow path, no wereform, NO roar (30 heal path), 14/245 for my cm count, and i've probably lost about 4ish duels..mostly to beast ASS sk's (i only have 58 AR, and yet i still pwn most sk's). There is this one War though, who has GW form and is a sick sick dueler, i have to respect his skillz ;)
My stats are the following:
(BASE) (CURRENT)
155 Str..........340
155 Sta..........250ish
100 Agi..........100 (due to +STR -AGI buff)
Nothing else touched
Well anyway, i have enstatite armor for dueling, and str/hp jewelry. I use a 2H wep which i think is best to use in duels before lvl 35.
When dueling, i buff w/ Iron skin, call of combat, and right before the duel starts, reckless force (which i noticed, most wars dueling dont use).
I start out the fight w/ Crits, kick,(punch), stomp, quick strike, and rapid strike. I continually use kick,(punch), and stomp +reckless force due to its low duration. When my power start to get a lil past halfway, i stop using stomp and wait for my crits to come back--thats when i end the duel. When using Bellow, i dont think theres a right time to use it, i just use it whenever.
So, i think the key to dueling is to get extreme strength while still maintaining a good hp and power. Anyone is free to reply w/ their own opinions.
Oh and i also think that either WW or BW is the best for a dueler. GW is kool, but i think the AC is not the best thing for a dueler.
Edited, Thu Feb 16 22:06:11 2006
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
Bases
102 str
200sta
180 agi
75 dex
80 wis
60 cha
1.6k hp
im in all HBA except bracers. the bracers give hp str n ar but i forget what they are called. and with 600 cms i was tough to kill but with gear i have like:
200str
300+sta
200 agi
102 dex
90wis
60cha
3k hp
and with wolfwere lol nuff said i owned but sks still gave me problems. and only 4 warriors my level cold ever kill me.
lilfate on ppo i hope people still remember my tanking
Fluffyncute(on clw)29 ogre warrior <----350 cms
Lilfate 32 600cm ERUDITE pally<-----gimp or pimp?
help me im a cm grinding bitch :(
WoW <----- fun
Fluffyness 70 tauren shaman <- FOR THE HORDE
Fluffyncute 63 human warrior <-tanking ftw
Warrpath 70 tauren warrior <- prot a go go
(\_/) <------ I couldn't resist
(O.O) Make him your king
(> <)
Base-current(self buff)
118str-350
257sta-385
150agi-130
you dont really need extreme str around 300 is ok..you really need pwr so you dont oom and can use all your hits...high hp has really helped in duels...id go LW for most dueler tanks since they have low sta agi and hp...im 3600 with bellow no form but a certain few sks can beat me np...
Edited, Tue Feb 21 16:18:06 2006
44 Shadowknight
31 Necromancer
32 Warrior (lost Acc)
58 Necromancer
PPO
oh and what lvl is ur warr?
Edited, Mon Feb 20 17:38:48 2006
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
Edited, Fri Feb 24 14:06:27 2006
44 Shadowknight
31 Necromancer
32 Warrior (lost Acc)
58 Necromancer
PPO
can u guys help me out how i should build my warrior....help would be greatly appreciated lol so if u can give me a goal to have by lvl 60 and he has only done his lvl 20 quest and went pillar path so if u could plzz give me some jewlery i could buy and some weapons that could help me out..thanks
str affects how hard u dmg, its your main power pool, and its has a 10% mod on taunts
Sta affects hp and mana pool
Agi affects your defence (u need a lot of it)
dex affects how ofter you hit hard
Wis affects your resist and even most of your buffs
Cha...lol need i say more you will never need.
I went high sta,agi, and keeped wis and str the same. This is the basic MT build
But a solo/dueling build is basicly how good your gear is cause you need str/dex for dmg output and sta/agi for your defence.
Path wise i see you are bellow (which i think is overated like bloods) i'd say:
bellow= (Huge heal/hp buff) dueler/soloer..and semi MT
Pillar= (huge taunt and ac buff) the real MT for a guild
Personally i think you need to find what you like the best and stick with it.
PS
My 29 ogres stats are
100 str
190 sta
155 agi
like 0 dex...jk 65
70 wis (working on it)
and 45 cha (from racial cm)
last i have 10/230 cms and if i didnt retire i would of worked it to like 400+ like my pally
if ya need more hlp just ask and just to let you know every1 has there personal opinion about a class. Mines is to do what they are ment to do and a warrior needs to be able to take hits and keep aggro
Fluffyncute(on clw)29 ogre warrior <----350 cms
Lilfate 32 600cm ERUDITE pally<-----gimp or pimp?
help me im a cm grinding bitch :(
WoW <----- fun
Fluffyness 70 tauren shaman <- FOR THE HORDE
Fluffyncute 63 human warrior <-tanking ftw
Warrpath 70 tauren warrior <- prot a go go
(\_/) <------ I couldn't resist
(O.O) Make him your king
(> <)
I know this.
Dirtyj
60WARLORD
Ppo
Frograypir 50 Troll Warrior Bellow Path 0/620 CMs(Lion)
:-= Diren Hold =-:
Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.
Fluffyncute(on clw)29 ogre warrior <----350 cms
Lilfate 32 600cm ERUDITE pally<-----gimp or pimp?
help me im a cm grinding bitch :(
WoW <----- fun
Fluffyness 70 tauren shaman <- FOR THE HORDE
Fluffyncute 63 human warrior <-tanking ftw
Warrpath 70 tauren warrior <- prot a go go
(\_/) <------ I couldn't resist
(O.O) Make him your king
(> <)
195 str
225 sta
125agi
75 dex
57 wis (yeah i know)
??/465 CMs (haven't checked current cause it takes so long)
Lionwere
only 37 HoT from CMs, need more, but something like 30-40 mobs per CM
What i've found is that sta isn't a really important base unless you're planning on MTing for your guild or something. There's no point in having such high hp if you can't hold aggro. Agility is good, but not too much. I'll agree with the posts below me that bite is awesome 602 dmg on my warr, and Wereforms are incredible. Lion is 20 sta/agi and 250 max hp. By the way you definitely want to go bellow path, saved me and my group countless times.
Edited, Thu Dec 22 21:44:00 2005
Frograypir 50 Troll Warrior Bellow Path 0/620 CMs(Lion)
:-= Diren Hold =-:
Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.
Calvin.........60 Hunter - Prophets of Zion
Bolador........60 Diviner - Prophets of Zion -
Icansolo......40 [ULTRA] Feral Gatorwere -Warrior - PoZ alts -
Putzy.........24 Power necro (future farmer)
-l- Ferran's Hope -l-
** sorry for the double post..my comp was lagging and it must of pressed "Post Message" twice lol
Edited, Thu Dec 15 14:06:58 2005
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
44 Shadowknight
31 Necromancer
32 Warrior (lost Acc)
58 Necromancer
PPO
Piowar - Level 31, Ogre Warrior
Base Stats
Strength - 110
Stamina - 190
Agility - 150
Dexterity - 60
Hit Points Self-Buffed: 3067
Armor Class Self-Buffed: Roughly 1400 I think
Armor: Full set of Heartsblood Alloy, Scourwind shield (I THINK.. I may have a higher/better shield I can't remember)
Jewelry: Full set of Ruby (Again, last I checked... Ruby gives the most HPMax by the way, for those wondering)
Class Mastery:
Vigor 1: STA MAX +15, STA +1 (10 CMS)
Regeneration 1, 2, 3: +12 HoT (combined)(30 CMS)
Vital Body 1, 2, 3: +225 HP (combined)(30 CMS)
Powerful Mind 1, 2, 3: +225 POW (combined)(30 CMS)
Battle Hardened 1, 2: +25 STA (combined)(50 CMS)
Natural Mending 1: +5 HoT (15 CMS)
Tough Hide: +1 DEF MOD (20 CMS)
Zek's Boon: +1 HP MOD, +100 HPMAX (25 CMS)
Total Class Mastery Points: 210
And no, he doesn't have a were-form... just think how bad ass he'd be than... more hp, more HoT, def mod, new attack (bite ROCKS by the way, my 53 war has it)
Anyway if I ever get on to the game I will re-post the correct stats, but as far as I remember I've pretty much nailed it with what I've wrote down here. If you have any questions, let me know.
53 War - Koveras - 6228/ 3046ac (self-buffed)
51 Nec - Ulraunt
-=Ferran's Hope Server=-
Calvin.........60 Hunter - Prophets of Zion
Bolador........60 Diviner - Prophets of Zion -
Icansolo......40 [ULTRA] Feral Gatorwere -Warrior - PoZ alts -
Putzy.........24 Power necro (future farmer)
-l- Ferran's Hope -l-
and if you don't mind saying it, Sta/Str/Agi/Wis...some tanks refuse to speak of their stats...so if you don't want to, I wont bother you. and if you want high HP, either add a ton to your stam, which I'm sure you know, or if you happen to have a rich higher level toon, or a large bank, Heartsblood set...I have a full set of HB alloy for my warrior, and it adds tons of HP/Arcane Resist...TONS. a very worthwhile investment, if not for the HP, the AR comes in real handy.
Calvin.........60 Hunter - Prophets of Zion
Bolador........60 Diviner - Prophets of Zion -
Icansolo......40 [ULTRA] Feral Gatorwere -Warrior - PoZ alts -
Putzy.........24 Power necro (future farmer)
-l- Ferran's Hope -l-
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
Aaron, yoru warrior stats lookin good, hows Pio doing? have you seen Xenohealer around by chance?
l8z man
Calvin.........60 Hunter - Prophets of Zion
Bolador........60 Diviner - Prophets of Zion -
Icansolo......40 [ULTRA] Feral Gatorwere -Warrior - PoZ alts -
Putzy.........24 Power necro (future farmer)
-l- Ferran's Hope -l-
I hope you can play again some day... I would like that very much... I won't be on for about a month, picked up a second job for the christmas season =( but I am hoping to get back on asap!
As for the advice... I just try to help wherever possible. I remember what it was like when I first started playing, didn't have a clue what I was doing. Since than I've learned a lot, and any guild I join constantly looks to me for help before anyone else. That's just the way it is. Elders, Masters, etc. etc. I just know my stuff or at least most of the time.
As for my war... at the moment he is now level 53 w00t he sits around 6.3k hp and 2.6k ac self buffed. He is undefeated in duels against people his level, and is even capable of taking out tanks 3 - 5 levels higher than him. Most of the time I get messages like "Oh well I just underestimated him, that's all" and than when I offer to go again they turn me down hahaha!
As for Pioneer... she's basically done. I finished epic, switched from Pyromancer to Geomancer (just to give it a try, some guildies were saying it was one of the best mage mc's out there... I have to strongly disagree) so I'm back to Pyromancer again which I absolutely love and always will.
Lately I've been working a little bit on my nec Ulraunt... he's level 47 now, unfortunately my account got suspended for afk xp'ing LOL oh well I guess that's life...
Anyway good hearing from ya again bud, take care and hope to see you soon ^_^
p.s. no I don't talk to xenohealer... don't know the person, except by name.
53 War - Koveras - 6228/ 3046ac (self-buffed)
51 Nec - Ulraunt
-=Ferran's Hope Server=-
and as long as were talkin warrior stats...
poop, been a while, struggling to remember...i think I had like upper 3ks and possibly low 4k and 1600 AC self buffed, could take out SKs 4 levels higher 75% of the time, did pretty well against warriors few levels higher, and took out paladins pretty well, unless they had mad heals to use, highest level I took out was 42, but I think they were distracted, because I shouldn't have won that...by the way, the FULL SET of HB alloy armor helped a lot...and I was wearing level 33 set not lvl 38...which I was working towards...just needed to get my crafting level up a little 1st...
well, I hope very strongly that I can play again soemtime soon.
take care, don't overwork yourself man. peace oot.
Calvin.........60 Hunter - Prophets of Zion
Bolador........60 Diviner - Prophets of Zion -
Icansolo......40 [ULTRA] Feral Gatorwere -Warrior - PoZ alts -
Putzy.........24 Power necro (future farmer)
-l- Ferran's Hope -l-
Calvin.........60 Hunter - Prophets of Zion
Bolador........60 Diviner - Prophets of Zion -
Icansolo......40 [ULTRA] Feral Gatorwere -Warrior - PoZ alts -
Putzy.........24 Power necro (future farmer)
-l- Ferran's Hope -l-
Calvin.........60 Hunter - Prophets of Zion
Bolador........60 Diviner - Prophets of Zion -
Icansolo......40 [ULTRA] Feral Gatorwere -Warrior - PoZ alts -
Putzy.........24 Power necro (future farmer)
-l- Ferran's Hope -l-
I have a 31 ogre war with around the same amount of hp as you. He has 220 cms spent, all geared towards defense.
The only thing I would change on your toon at the moment is your strength and your agility. Don't put any more points into str (my war only has 210 base at 53) and start working on your agility big time. Agility is one of the first contributing factors in determining how much damage you will take. So you should definitely not over look it.
All I can really suggest is perhaps investing in some different cms. If you're having troubles taking hits, than start picking up as many DEF MOD cms, HPMax (Vital Body), STA / AGI (Defender's Resolve) that you can. Class Mastery can act as a temporary fix to your toon until you are able to get your stats re-arranged over the next few levels. And, if you can't get your stats fixed, at level 55 you get a chance to "Rehabilitate" your character, which allows you to re-do all of your class mastery and training points.
If you have any further questions, please let me know.
53 War - Koveras - 6228/ 3046ac (self-buffed)
51 Nec - Ulraunt
-=Ferran's Hope Server=-
An extremely good non-racial tank mc for dueling / solo'ing / grinding / mt'ing would be Hero.
Also, don't skimp out on the Agility. It helps you a lot more than you know.
Another thing... if you plan to duel, plan to have a crap load of cms spent at low levels... I built an ogre warrior long time ago for the same purpose as you, just for duels. At level 31 he has just over 3k hp, and very rarely loses a duel. But the one thing I noticed real quick is even when I thought that I had a lot of cms spent (220 cms spent at level 31) I was finding that there were people the same level with over 400 spent. So if you plan on doing a lot of dueling, be prepared to do a lot of cm'ing.
Also I strongly suggest getting the half recast attacks for duels, and as many mods as you can. Also, a were-form would be strongly recommended as well for additional unlocked cms.
53 War - Koveras - 6228/ 3046ac (self-buffed)
51 Nec - Ulraunt
-=Ferran's Hope Server=-
Unless of course your my warrior and you can do both! Muahahaa ^_^
53 War - Koveras - 6228/ 3046ac (self-buffed)
51 Nec - Ulraunt
-=Ferran's Hope Server=-
(I figured you brag, I'll brag...thought I don't know that statement to be true...and I knwo your aint. ;-p later)
Calvin.........60 Hunter - Prophets of Zion
Bolador........60 Diviner - Prophets of Zion -
Icansolo......40 [ULTRA] Feral Gatorwere -Warrior - PoZ alts -
Putzy.........24 Power necro (future farmer)
-l- Ferran's Hope -l-
whenever i make one i end up taking way too much damage and that makes all the healers get mad at me...
can any1 give me a step-by-step way for my stats...like what i should put where and when...(at low lvls)
Edited, Wed Nov 16 18:22:50 2005
Stamina affects your total hit point count... agility affects how much damage you will take on each hit... think of it as sort of a "saving throw" if you've ever played the older RPG's such as Baldur's Gate or Icewind Dale. It's like a "chance" to take less damage. The more agility, the higher the "chance".
However, don't over do the agility... your stamina should be one of your more prominent stats, with agility below it and strength below that.
53 War - Koveras - 6228/ 3046ac (self-buffed)
51 Nec - Ulraunt
-=Ferran's Hope Server=-
Fluffyncute(on clw)29 ogre warrior <----350 cms
Lilfate 32 600cm ERUDITE pally<-----gimp or pimp?
help me im a cm grinding bitch :(
WoW <----- fun
Fluffyness 70 tauren shaman <- FOR THE HORDE
Fluffyncute 63 human warrior <-tanking ftw
Warrpath 70 tauren warrior <- prot a go go
(\_/) <------ I couldn't resist
(O.O) Make him your king
(> <)
Master Class - Juggernaught (simply for the hp mods... don't go Defender it's a highly over-rated MC that is completely useless without the PoD drop spell. And even with it, it's still useless.)
Stats - High Stamina, like around 250 - 300 base. Strength should be around 100 base (which isn't hard since your base str is 95 at levl 1), and your agiltiy / wisdom should sit around 200ish. You should of course try to get these stats much higher than that with the right cm's.
53 War - Koveras - 6228/ 3046ac (self-buffed)
51 Nec - Ulraunt
-=Ferran's Hope Server=-
How do you justifiy Jugg being better then Defender? Im assuming youre talking about MTn. If not, nvm.
For one, you say you went Jugg for the hp mods, but Defenders get more hp. Jugg only gets 360 where as Defender gets 500.
You say Defenders are useless w/o PoD spell... Before i did the springview quest and got ac spell long ago, i tanked all mobs except Bert and hadnt tried QoV at the time. So we're useless how?
Ill grant you the argument that going Jugg frees up tps/cms for other stats say wis or w/e you like. But other then that, they really dont have anything over Defenders.
So if you dont mind, feel free to elaborate as to how Juggs are better. I am more then curious to know.
Dirtyj/Macnasty
60 WARLORD
However, here is why I came to the conclusion that I did.
There is an HP formula that can be used when figuring out how much hp a character can have at level 60 with certain stat attributes such as hp mods as an example. By using this formula we are able to find out just how much of an hp difference there is between the different tank mc's.
Here are the key differences between the mc's...
Juggernaught and Defender are practically the same mc. They both give +200ac, both give +50 STA MAX, both give to all the resists...
However, Defender gives +500 HP MAX, where as Juggernaught gives +5 HP Mods. The hp mods at level 60 works out to +300 HP MAX. So yes, Defender does give +200 more hp. However, Juggernaught gives +2 Def Mods, and +50 Stamina. Now, the +50 Stamina doesn't necessarily mean more hp, all it means is less gear needed to max out that stat.
Juggernaught also gives something else that helps quite a bit. +50 Strength. This helps a little bit with holding aggro due to increased damage numbers as well as a higher aggro taunt. Also, because it's a power pool stat the +50 str will help with your power pool as well.
With Defender, your AC buff gives you +1,000ac. At 400 Wisdom, it'll give +1,400ac. POD drop spell doubles the wisdom modifier, meaning that at 400 wisdom it would give +1,800ac.
In short, a Defender will MT better than a Juggernaught due to the high AC. But if you're looking for a REALLY good grind / dual / solo tank, Juggernaught or Hero are definitely the way to go.
And yes, Hero DOES give more HP than Defender. It also gives +2 Def Mods which was said by a GM to equal out to +400 "unseen" ac. Also something very important that has been said is that when trying to figure out how much damage you will take can be figured out as follows (taken straight from the EQOA main forums):
-----------------------------------------------
AC is not the first line of defense at all. AC is what mitgates the damage that hits "after" it has been first modified by LVL DIFF, AGI and MODS.
AGI effects dam before it even hits you, AC effects the actual damage that gets through.
The order is:
MOB lvl vs CHAR LVL + or minus DEF/OFF mods
The MOB's ATK value is adjusted by your AGI
The above creates the DAM Range value
OF the damage which gets through, your AC then mitigates it.
-----------------------------------------------
Which means theoretically speaking a Hero will MT better than a Defender, simply because Hero gives +2 Def Mods (as stated earlier) AND +50 Agility. Both are factors that get taken into consideration before AC does. So, being that AC is the LAST contributing factor in terms of damage mitigation, having a high AC doesn't necessarily make you take the hits any better or less.
Also, with +50 Dex, a base str of 200 (required for Hero) and +4 Off Mods, a Hero WILL out damage and out aggro a Defender.
Hero is the ultimate tank mc.
53 War - Koveras - 6228/ 3046ac (self-buffed)
51 Nec - Ulraunt
-=Ferran's Hope Server=-
For one, I already knew Heros get more hp. Heros werent the topic of conversation. It was funny to see that it took you about 6paragraphs to finally say Defenders are better MTs over Juggs, which is not how you made them out to be originally. Yet you once again, lost me when you say that Hero is "the ultimate tank mc".
I, having tanked every mob, having played around with ac numbers and agi, can assure you that your assesment is wrong.
For one, agi plays such a second hand role to ac, that so many tanks are now decreasing the amount of agi they have. Regardless of whatever eq guide you read, unless they changed it as of very recently, ac is the priority in dmg mitigation. For one, i know plenty of Heros who were once Defenders that will tell you w/o a doubt, the ac is the key. Ive been up against very hard mobs where when my agi was low, I still owned that mob. But when my ac was low, yet agi was maxed (550), I'd end up needing alot more heals. (Perfect mob for this example would be King Daran who debuffs 3000ac and about 200ish agi)
Agi, as I and just about all the veteran MTs agree with, helps keep dmg within the lower range set by ac. Ac determines the dmg range you'll recieve from the normal attacks of a mob. Agi determines how often you'll get hit for the lower end of said range. (Please bare in mind that such a test is not to be performed on grind mobs UNLESS such a mob is considerably higher then your char and hits hard, b/c otherwise they will already be hitting for a minimum amount of dmg)
Also, as a tank with very low str, I more than know that w/e extra str i could have would do very little in helping me hold aggro b/c it is very easy already (im full heal path btw). It is so easy that to use alot of tps for str would be a waste imo. So that argument is weak. So is the 50agi one as well. While ofcoure it is nice, the apporximately 100ish tps you'd have to put in str to get Hero could have easily went to agi if you went Defender b/c they dont have a str req. Max agi is max agi regardless of what your base is or how you got that agi. Lastly, the power gained from str is always nice, sure. But if youre on a raid and are about to run oom, I doubt highly that the 100ish or so extra str you'd have would help alleviate that issue. Real raid mobs endure much longer then your power pool regardless of how much str you have. Likewise, the little it does help with aggro would fail to be noticed b/c as i stated earlier, a tank with low str can easily hold aggro. (I never lose it)
I hate to pull the rank card. But looking at your tank's lvl, I see that our differences are primarily b/c you just dont know yet. Your knowledge comes from w/e grinds you've been on, while mine comes from both. When/if you get to a MT point, and have been down a few roads, I do not doubt we'll see eye to eye.
Heros are not better MTs lol. They just arent.
(On the last post i stated that Juggs get 360hp. That was an error on my part, I wasnt certain how many hpMods they end up with. I know how the formula works)
Dirtyj/Macnasty
60 WARLORD
Agility for defense is like Dexterity for offense. (correct me if I'm wrong but that's how I understood it)
As for the bit about ac being the "last factor in damage mitigation" that was just something I had picked off the main eqoa forums. To be honest my war IS only level 53 so I do have much to learn about MT'ing. However from a grinding standpoint I would still choose Hero over Defender. Not only that, but my shadowknight buddy just took Heroic Were-Hunter as his MC and has Vital Strike, so I need the damage to take his ass down LOL
I think ultimately what may end up happening, is I will most likely end up rehabbing at 55 and going Defender instead. After I seen a Death Knight solo the Heliai (sp?) guardians / sorceresses I think defense over offense is the key. Especially since a warrior really isn't going to do that much more damage with an extra 150 str being that the attacks are only modded by 10%.
Thank you very much for your input. Hopefully I'll get my facts and figures right yet lol ^_^
Oh yeah, one quick question. I learned about a mob today named Quintashi. Apparently he DT's the first person (20,000 damage) and hits for huge amounts of damage. I also heard he's the 2nd rarest mob in the game in terms of spawn time. Have you ever mt'd him? If so, did he drop anything cool? Also if he's 2nd rarest, any idea who the rarest mob in the game is? Just some questions for ya to ponder over ;)
Edited, Tue Dec 6 03:04:25 2005
53 War - Koveras - 6228/ 3046ac (self-buffed)
51 Nec - Ulraunt
-=Ferran's Hope Server=-
And yes, that is a very good way of understanding how agi works. Just like dex does with str. Due to huge ac buffs however, it is a bit harder to notice the effect of agi nowadays especially for Defenders who have so much that raid mobs are hitting them for min damage.
Couldnt agree more, Heros are supreme grinders. Rehabing wasnt an option when I was coming up so I missed out on that.
Also, I should correct my previous post. I havent tanked every mob. Every mob isnt tankable. This is mostly due to DTs. Such is the case with Quintashi. Some DTs can be avoided, but its usually through some vigorous effort that almost has to be perfect. So if they DT, I dont bother.
Quintashi spawns like 2-3times a year it seems. And his drops are pure garbage. Guess thats a good thing though. What if his drops were great and you lost a roll on it lol. Would be mad as hell. Never know when you would get another chance to get that item. Lol imagine the dishonesty that would take place at a Qunitashi raid if his rares were good. No idea who the rarest mob is btw. Im always hearing of some mobs in SE that are very rare. Never seen them though, so im guessing one of those.
A side note though..
I wish agi and defMods played a stronger roll in MTn like they used to. But with the PoD ac buff and pills and stuff (which I loathe btw), games a lil less challenging on the MT front. Id rather MT on an sk, my prefered tank class. Likewise, I reasoned the same thing you did when it came to Heros. Thought they were probally better tanks b/c of the defMods and hp. I think just about every tank, especially when Fronts first came out, spent time debating wether or not Defenders were really better. But unfortunately, PoD spell changed all that.
If you can, tell me the link that shows how much a defMod is worth defensively. On the main forums, unless I missed it, we still havent gotten an official answer as to how good they are. I've settled with the notion that they are like an increase in lvl. IE: notice how when you lvl on a grind, the mobs dont hit quite as hard even though youre in the exact same gear. I realize your ac probally scaled, but even if it didnt, you would still get hit for less. Same thing seems to apply to offMods. As your lvl increase, youll tend to hit the same mob harder.
Dirtyj/Macnasty
60WARLORD
ppo
"Yakatizma wrote:
MC STATS
______________________
"200 for class cm or def mod" = 200 ac, 1 def mod is i beleive roughly 200 "unseen" ac"
The link to where I found this is the following:
http://eqoaforums.station.sony.com/eqoa/board/message?board.id=discussion&message.id=265516&query.id=21957#M265516
I have also read what you stated, about it making you take hits as though you were one level higher. I'm not sure which is the case and personally I have 2 def mods now on my war and I don't really notice much of a difference in damage so I'm not really sure what they do exactly lol
53 War - Koveras - 6228/ 3046ac (self-buffed)
51 Nec - Ulraunt
-=Ferran's Hope Server=-
Fluffyncute(on clw)29 ogre warrior <----350 cms
Lilfate 32 600cm ERUDITE pally<-----gimp or pimp?
help me im a cm grinding bitch :(
WoW <----- fun
Fluffyness 70 tauren shaman <- FOR THE HORDE
Fluffyncute 63 human warrior <-tanking ftw
Warrpath 70 tauren warrior <- prot a go go
(\_/) <------ I couldn't resist
(O.O) Make him your king
(> <)
Edited, Thu Oct 20 15:49:10 2005
Edited, Tue Oct 25 22:38:02 2005
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
Edited, Mon Oct 24 22:06:34 2005
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
stat/base/current(buffed)
str-150/316 (edited)
sta-155/207
agi-90/141
dex-60/75
everything else untouched
he has around 2250 (edited) hp buffed and about 900 ac and 2300 (edited) hp and 1200 ac with shield. are these stats good for a dueling warr? and would jugg or hero be better 4 dueling? also, what do you think are the best gems for armor & jewelry for dueling? I only seem to lose to sk's and my ar is only 68 buffed....would hba(although i can never afford it) be good 4 dueling against sk's along with ar jewelry?
also, do you think i need to raise my dex up? i dunno if it will really help me when im dueling.
Edited, Mon Oct 24 22:11:36 2005
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
Edited, Tue Oct 11 01:00:16 2005
Calvin.........60 Hunter - Prophets of Zion
Bolador........60 Diviner - Prophets of Zion -
Icansolo......40 [ULTRA] Feral Gatorwere -Warrior - PoZ alts -
Putzy.........24 Power necro (future farmer)
-l- Ferran's Hope -l-
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
Calvin.........60 Hunter - Prophets of Zion
Bolador........60 Diviner - Prophets of Zion -
Icansolo......40 [ULTRA] Feral Gatorwere -Warrior - PoZ alts -
Putzy.........24 Power necro (future farmer)
-l- Ferran's Hope -l-
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
Gimbok-58 Ogre Warrior/Juggernaut
Pierce-49 D.Elf Rogue/Assassin to be
Deledor-31 Elven Ranger/Hunter to be
Edited, Thu Sep 29 13:37:55 2005
55 barb war
clw
Anyways if you wanna chat then PM me or go to the main forums I read your post below.
Or go play WoW, lol.
I'm an Official Unamed. Yep.
55 barb war
clw
Elixio
17Bar WAR
55 barb war
clw
Edited, Sun Sep 4 18:33:04 2005
55 barb war
clw
Edited, Sun Sep 4 18:40:36 2005
55 barb war
clw
well, I just been stoppin by to see whats up...Email me if you happen to read this.
calvineqoa@yahoo.com
later man \m/
**forgot to make my text small and black...haha...my signature text I guess
Edited, Tue Aug 2 13:48:16 2005
Calvin.........60 Hunter - Prophets of Zion
Bolador........60 Diviner - Prophets of Zion -
Icansolo......40 [ULTRA] Feral Gatorwere -Warrior - PoZ alts -
Putzy.........24 Power necro (future farmer)
-l- Ferran's Hope -l-
90 str unyouched
121 sta
111 agi
55 dex untouched
85 wis
55 cha untouched
i really dont know how imma bring my stats up...never really planed... plz some1 help me
also im a troll war 90 cms (gimp i know)
Put some tps into str and raise it some. It mods your taunt. Dont do too much tps into your wis. Sta and Agi look good, keeping going as you are.
Cms are back burner until you are 35 or so.
(edited I was a retard)
Edited, Tue Aug 2 12:27:47 2005
==========ANY INFORMATION WILL HELP==========
***Castle Lightwolf***
----Torcher 41 Gnomish LionWere Mage ----
----Constentine 19 Barbarian War----
----Euphrate 20 Human Monk----
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
*Never be bought, Never be sold*-Black Label
Edited, Sun Jul 17 18:48:21 2005
My advice to you. With rehab aviable, I say make a hero until you reach 60 and have all the cms you want. Use rehab and turn it into a defender.
Path wise is up to you. Pillar is good for extra agro and bellow is good for soloing and emgerency heals.
CMS, buy the hero requirements, vital body 1-5, Vigor 1-5, Nimbleness (the one for agi) 1-3, and Brawn 1-3. Leave your dex untouched for now.
Base wise 200str, 250sta, 250agi. Youll prolly have tps left over to use. Use them how you want.
Once you get the cms you want use the rehab to reset your tps and cms.
Good defender bases would be 300sta, 300agi, 170wis. Leave str and dex untouched.
CM wise, get the defender requirements, vital body 1-5, vigor 1-5, nimbleness 1-5, and the wisdom one (I forgot name) 1-3. Buy the mca guard (manadatory for a defender). Aim for the other defender mca, god touched, and were resits.
Cant really tell you exactly what to do as the biggest part of a character is making it how you want.
Oh which path would you suggest i go? i know there's a lot of arrgument about it, but most likly i'll only be playing him till about lvl 40, so i wont be getting that big 1k dmg taunt or what ever.
Edited, Fri Jul 8 09:18:21 2005
Bellow-hp buff/heal
*can save your life when you pull adds and is very usefull when soloing
Pillar-taunt/ac buff
*can save groupies life when your normal taunts can't peel, also helps your defense out w/ the xtra ac
Linxz- 60 Lich
Raidan- 50 Paladin
Personally I chose taunt path, which at level 20 was very helpful because back when I made him your taunt didn't scale with level, so holding aggro was always a problem. By level 30 after choosing it again I started to wonder why I had chose it again, and had contemplated taking bellow instead at 40. But, I kept with the same path the whole way through and I'm glad I did. Having that extra super powerful taunt is very helpful. Not so much for the ac, because personally it doesn't make enough of noticable difference to really do anything, but the aggro is very helpful.
However, bellow path can also have it's advantages. Although it may not have as much of an effect aggro wise, it does help with pulling. That, and the heal can be very useful, in a group OR solo'ing. How many times have you had a healer "forget" to heal you? Or the healer dies and your stuck fending for yourself? I know we all don't plan for these things to happen, but they do and that's all there is to it.
As I said, both sides have their advantages, it's a choice everybody has to make.
53 War - Koveras - 6228/ 3046ac (self-buffed)
51 Nec - Ulraunt
-=Ferran's Hope Server=-
and are they good for farming and pling?
i have a lvl 20 dwrfgood armor! his name is lakilian if anywants to duel me or play me!
and are they good for farming and pling?
i have a lvl 20 dwrfgood armor! his name is lakilian if anywants to duel me or play me!
For every 10 TP - 4 Sta, 3 Agi, 2 Str, 1 Dex
If someone could let me know if that's decent, I'd appreciate it.
if your going defender i would just do str/sta/agi
if hero str/sta/agi/dex
there is really no point in dex for a defensive mc
Linxz- 60 Lich
Raidan- 50 Paladin
What do you think?
Calvin.........60 Hunter - Prophets of Zion
Bolador........60 Diviner - Prophets of Zion -
Icansolo......40 [ULTRA] Feral Gatorwere -Warrior - PoZ alts -
Putzy.........24 Power necro (future farmer)
-l- Ferran's Hope -l-
53 War-Warhawk
42 Nec-Mismatik
+=-::**HODSTOCK**::-=+
Free account required to post
You must log in or create an account to post messages.Forum system by Zam