| Rogues are the secretive, mysterious class of the world who sneak about in the dark. Some say they are assassins, and some say that they are nothing but common thieves, but the truth lies somewhere in the middle, and they are capable of both. They are quite skilled with many weapons, but they cannot stand toe to toe with a warrior. Rogues prefer to make the kill by a sudden attack from the rear; backstabbing is their forte, after all. They move like smoke, in the thick of the fray one minute, causing tears to come to one’s eyes, then evaporating as you turn their way. Among them, the less honorable skills of picking pockets and stealing are considered to be fi ne arts. Rogues are believed to exist among the barbarian Northmen, dark elves, dwarves, gnomes, elves, halfl ings and humans, though their secretive natures make them diffi cult to detect. |
Second question: I know the armor isn't very good, but what is the plate armor (that looks like tank/cleric plate mail) that rogues can use?
this was my only 60 char and my favorite char...
Don't diss rogues, it was the best class i ever played.
Say hi to the people of Marr's Fist for me somone.
Bacstabber has been forever silenced.
So, for everyone going rogue here, the best advice for you I can give is go whatever race you'll be happy with. It's a long game and you have to look at your character a lot, so have fun with it.
I made a halfer just because I thought it'd be funny, and it was really funny when I was level 50 killing level 60 ogres in duels :-P
Second, Str/Dex/Agil are badass. I was maxed-max on my rogue and most of the time during runs I couldn't use weapons or attack skills because I did too much damage and pulled aggro no matter what.
Also, don't underestimate move rate when going for your CM's, although you don't really need it because of Vanish and other skills it's very helpful. Always keep Vanish on your quick list.
Go wound path the whole way through.
Learn to forge, or craft or whatever it is to make your own equipment. It's much cheaper in the end. Make a set of equipment that's dex/str base, and a set for while you forge that is +stat to whatever helps you make it.
That's about all I can remember :-P Hope that helps someone.
Castle LightWolf
"I'd stay and continue this battle of wits, but you're obviously unarmed."
ur stats look great...keep it up that way
Barbarian Rogue-Assassin 60 lvl
Marr's Fist
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
TYVVM!
Sphynxx 51 Elf/Ranger{Soon 2 b [Olive]Hunter}[/Maroon]
Tinmanz{Keba}-Tinmans "Rebirth" 12 Barb/Shaman{Plan on going [White]Elder}[/Maroon]
Hieii 29 Elf/Rogue{plan on goin [Black]Assassin}[/Maroon]
(Veteran of PC)
Edited, Sat May 14 14:33:41 2005
Req. Level: 55
AGI: 150
DEX: 250
Points spent: 500
Req. Masteries: Assassin's Skill 4, Poisoner's Talent 5
CM's: 200
Since your an elf you would want to buy the cm: "Elven Reflexes" which can be purchased at lvl 6 with 20 cms.
And also dont change your mind changing MC's because assassins do the greatest damage (unless your barb and go berserker)
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
Edited, Sun May 8 21:51:15 2005
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
Mortal Mask
Deceiver's Mask
Scholar's Mask
Brute's Mask
These are illusions Rogues can get and changes them into either Humans (Mortal Mask), Dark Elves (Deceiver's Mask), Erudites, (Scholar's Mask), and an Ogre (...you should know by now)
31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
lol I wasnt trying to be smart but all you realy had 2 do was thing about it. aight yo get at me!!!
Sphynxx 51 Elf/Ranger{Soon 2 b [Olive]Hunter}[/Maroon]
Tinmanz{Keba}-Tinmans "Rebirth" 12 Barb/Shaman{Plan on going [White]Elder}[/Maroon]
Hieii 29 Elf/Rogue{plan on goin [Black]Assassin}[/Maroon]
lol I wasnt trying to be smart but all you realy had 2 do was thing about it. aight yo get at me!!!
Sphynxx 51 Elf/Ranger{Soon 2 b [Olive]Hunter}[/Maroon]
Tinmanz{Keba}-Tinmans "Rebirth" 12 Barb/Shaman{Plan on going [White]Elder}[/Maroon]
Hieii 29 Elf/Rogue{plan on goin [Black]Assassin}[/Maroon]
And the otha Rogue Mc that good 4 duels or a good Mc 4 Rogues period is Berzerker, its rediculous how much stuff dey get....!!! as soon as u get ur Tag U get +25-str/sta +4-offmod, and u can buy Reckless Vigor that gives U +25-str/sta/dex HP Factor+10 Ac-400, You can also buy Berzerk, self buff trading defense for offense, plus a 500HP heal. 2cast, 3600 recast. Heres da site for all Master Classes and otha info:
http://hodstock.com/modules.php?name=Class_Mastery&op=lookup
its a good site im sure otha ppl on Allakhazam have ben 2............ well once again im out peace!!
Sphynxx 51 Elf/Ranger{Soon 2 b [Olive]Hunter}[/Maroon]
Tinmanz{Keba}-Tinmans "Rebirth" 12 Barb/Shaman{Plan on going [White]Elder}[/Maroon]
Hieii 29 Elf/Rogue{plan on goin [Black]Assassin}[/Maroon]
Until the next time I start runnin my mouth im out!!!1!!!
Sphynxx 51 Elf/Ranger{Soon 2 b [Olive]Hunter}[/Maroon]
Tinmanz{Keba}-Tinmans "Rebirth" 12 Barb/Shaman{Plan on going [White]Elder}[/Maroon]
Hieii 29 Elf/Rogue{plan on goin [Black]Assassin}[/Maroon]
I have noticed pickpoket work like this. If you are in a grp with another rge each pp done decreases the amount taken. So if you aren't the first one to PP then your first PP will be less making it a bit harder for the 2 rges to make an even amount of tunar during one grind.
As far as my tool bar goes I have awide rangeof attacks and only 3 none attacks on my tool bar
Vanish- comes in super handy when tank can't hold aggro
Tumbler's grace- Self AC buff from beginning levels. Low level AC but all the AC you gets helps especially when soloing
Steal- this is any varity cm's athe regulars. in this case i do buy my cm steals dmg may not be high like a normal ability but it is extra dmg
As a rge gets higher and higher the aggro will become harder and harder to hold. My husband is a 47 tank and has been till recently one of very few tanks able to hold my aggro. no my aggro is so much harder to hold and makes him go oom faster
I am on CLW server and my in-game names are Ldyarwen and Ldyelana
Copy Right 2002 William E. Wrigley
(want to know about the quote email and ask me)
Note, I don't remember if you hit 4 times then damage for the level 20 wound, I'm pretty sure you don't. What happend to me is my epic got screwed up so I got gimped wound, and after a few weeks (I filed a complaint) it got fixed, so now I have two 49 wounds, and for 1 cm I think I could make my gimped wound into the non gimped so I would have two non gimped wounds, but the gimped does about 1400 and the non gimped does 1500, thats about 3k (give or take 100 hehe) which is about as much as 3 best back stabs or so
so don't worry about damage at higher end because wounds should only be used for jams and even then I forget I have em. I'm half tempted to make a rogue and give him all str and dex and take him on the avoidence path, just for the fact that at about 49 wounds take that much longer for the damage to come out
Sphynxx 51 Elf/Ranger{Soon 2 b [Olive]Hunter}[/Maroon]
Tinmanz{Keba}-Tinmans "Rebirth" 12 Barb/Shaman{Plan on going [White]Elder}[/Maroon]
Hieii 29 Elf/Rogue{plan on goin [Black]Assassin}[/Maroon]
do i select for pure damage, not planning on solo'g much.
chris
Ashke 52 shaman - clw
Wound is going to make your life easier as you level. It is an extra good-damage dealing weapon in your arsenal as a DD.
Avoid, endgame raiding and in "Boss" monster encounters, can save your life. You wade in, deliver a whammy, draw agro, then use Avoid. You live. Maybe your Tank is in trouble, you intentionally draw agro, hold it while the Tank is being healed, then use Avoid and he resumes Tanking.
So both path abilities have uses.
But you will use Wound far, far more often than Avoid.
Good Luck.
Corwyyn (aka "Raandyym")
Casual Player, WoW
members.cox.net/steveharris46/compare.html
Lost Disiples
20
Dark Elf
Magician
Dinninz
Elf
Rogue
11
Lost Disiples
20
Dark Elf
Magician
Dinninz
Elf
Rogue
11
all races that support the rge class have their advantages and disadvantages.
I'm a barbarian rogue so I start off with a little more STR than other rges.
Halflings have the highest starting stats of the power pool...DEX and AGI.
But IMO all of this doesnt matter because of CMs. I think now its just a matter of how you want to look and your accesibilty.
"I have an announcement to make. Jesus is black, Ronald Regan was the devil, and the goverment lied about 9-11, Thank you"
all races that support the rge class have their advantages and disadvantages.
I'm a barbarian rogue so I start off with a little more STR than other rges.
Halflings have the highest starting stats of the power pool...DEX and AGI.
But IMO all of this doesnt matter because of CMs. I think now its just a matter of how you want to look and your accesibilty.
"I have an announcement to make. Jesus is black, Ronald Regan was the devil, and the goverment lied about 9-11, Thank you"
Ipickpocketo
Marrs Fist Server
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A day shall arise from the ashes of hate, when the Rogue theifs shall take arms agaist the empire and destroy all who oppose there fury!
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Sphynxx 51 Elf/Ranger{Soon 2 b [Olive]Hunter}[/Maroon]
Tinmanz{Keba}-Tinmans "Rebirth" 12 Barb/Shaman{Plan on going [White]Elder}[/Maroon]
Hieii 29 Elf/Rogue{plan on goin [Black]Assassin}[/Maroon]
Corwyyn (aka "Raandyym")
Casual Player, WoW
members.cox.net/steveharris46/compare.html
Sphynxx 51 Elf/Ranger{Soon 2 b [Olive]Hunter}[/Maroon]
Tinmanz{Keba}-Tinmans "Rebirth" 12 Barb/Shaman{Plan on going [White]Elder}[/Maroon]
Hieii 29 Elf/Rogue{plan on goin [Black]Assassin}[/Maroon]
Karchok-Kerran Dirge
were info
and im thinking of goin tinker
Edited, Sat Nov 20 10:55:30 2004
Also if you could post lvl requirments and 60's in guild, Raid scheduals, and overall fun of the guild i would appreciate it.
47 Rouge
Ipickpocketo
Marrs Fist Server
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A day shall come when the rogue theifs shall rise up and smite all who oppose there wrath!
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Ipickpocketo
Marrs Fist Server
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A day shall arise from the ashes of hate, when the Rogue theifs shall take arms agaist the empire and destroy all who oppose there fury!
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Arenveza 34 brd FH
cendyyen 23 drd FH
bloodchaos 23 sk FH
Aren 23 ran HS
Leetleguy 14 rge CLW
Bloodchaos: 33 shadowknight (DK in training)
I'm an Official Unamed. Yep.
Kharr 19 Elf/Paladin : to be Guardian
Tratto 34 Elf/Druid : to be Wilding
Khaz 15 Barb/Warrior : to be Defender
Ryusoul 34 Hum/Necromancer : to be Defiler
Bloodspillr 21 Hum/Rogue : to be Assassin
Except I'd be and Assassin!
Raids- Assassin cuz of debuff.
Dmg Output- Berserker cuz of off mods.(barbarians only)
Duels- Prolly Bravo cuz of the stat buff.
Overall fun- Any of them becuz they are all great imo.
Planning on goin Burglar becuz its way cool to get freakin rich off grinding.
Good Luck on your choice =)
Pleeb is 54 rogue
Bruceplee is only 10
I'm a Baller and i Ball, that's what i do and nothing else. You got a problem with that?
Lomens 30 elf paladin
Hiwatori 20 elf wizard
Taedora 15 elf druid
Yuskayjr 12 dark elf warrior
Birth, pain, death. There is nothing more in life than these three things...
So I will pave this road to glory, sets the broken spirits free. From every cross-soaked nail pours endless rain with tears no eye should see. But they could fill our highest ocean, and the rivers inbetween. With every blade that flowers must grow then drown, with love our cruelest sea.
1. Dmg. Which one will do more? (Wizzy?)
2. Agro. Which one will pull more? (Wizzy?)
3. Groups. Which will be easier with LFG? (?)
Lomens 30 elf paladin
Hiwatori 20 elf wizard
Taedora 15 elf druid
Yuskayjr 12 dark elf warrior
Birth, pain, death. There is nothing more in life than these three things...
So I will pave this road to glory, sets the broken spirits free. From every cross-soaked nail pours endless rain with tears no eye should see. But they could fill our highest ocean, and the rivers inbetween. With every blade that flowers must grow then drown, with love our cruelest sea.
Landarjon- 60 Death Knight
-Resurrection-
Lomens 30 elf paladin
Hiwatori 20 elf wizard
Taedora 15 elf druid
Yuskayjr 12 dark elf warrior
Birth, pain, death. There is nothing more in life than these three things...
So I will pave this road to glory, sets the broken spirits free. From every cross-soaked nail pours endless rain with tears no eye should see. But they could fill our highest ocean, and the rivers inbetween. With every blade that flowers must grow then drown, with love our cruelest sea.
**††Shades of Grey††**
**††Shades of Grey††**
Lomens 30 elf paladin
Hiwatori 20 elf wizard
Taedora 15 elf druid
Yuskayjr 12 dark elf warrior
Birth, pain, death. There is nothing more in life than these three things...
So I will pave this road to glory, sets the broken spirits free. From every cross-soaked nail pours endless rain with tears no eye should see. But they could fill our highest ocean, and the rivers inbetween. With every blade that flowers must grow then drown, with love our cruelest sea.
Lilabaddon - lvl 60 Gnome Wizard - Lil Shades of Grey - CLW (11.3 Jewlery 10.1 Tailor)
Abaddon - lvl 47 Delf Necromancer - Endless Shades of Grey - CLW
Ontherise - lvl 47 Elf Magician - Shades of Grey - CLW
SheerTerror - lvl 25 Human Rogue - Lil Shades of Grey - CLW
Uglynproud - lvl 30 Ogre Necromancer - Endless Shades of Grey - CLW
Carryon - lvl 19 Human Druid - Endless Shades of Grey - CLW
I'm an Official Unamed. Yep.
My NEW mains:
Names: PowaCell|Spirtcost
Race/Classes: Human East-Bard|Barbarian-Shammy
Levels: 26|21
Future MC/Paths: Minstrel-ManaPath|Elder-PetPath
-Click my name for Were-Links, CM help, and Spell help.
I'm an Official Unamed. Yep.
I say Wound path. More damage is always a good thing. IMO, evade path = the training rge. Make sure whatever path u choose, you follow it all the way or else your rogue will be nerfed big time.
"I have an announcement to make. Jesus is black, Ronald Regan was the devil, and the goverment lied about 9-11, Thank you"
Lomens 30 elf paladin
Hiwatori 20 elf wizard
Taedora 15 elf druid
Yuskayjr 12 dark elf warrior
Birth, pain, death. There is nothing more in life than these three things...
So I will pave this road to glory, sets the broken spirits free. From every cross-soaked nail pours endless rain with tears no eye should see. But they could fill our highest ocean, and the rivers inbetween. With every blade that flowers must grow then drown, with love our cruelest sea.
Lomens 30 elf paladin
Hiwatori 20 elf wizard
Taedora 15 elf druid
Yuskayjr 12 dark elf warrior
Birth, pain, death. There is nothing more in life than these three things...
So I will pave this road to glory, sets the broken spirits free. From every cross-soaked nail pours endless rain with tears no eye should see. But they could fill our highest ocean, and the rivers inbetween. With every blade that flowers must grow then drown, with love our cruelest sea.
1. Is the Mug CMs worth it? Will the dmg be worth the cost of CMs?
2. I can only PP Whites and down, but when i group on my Bard or Shammy i see rogues PP any Con.. how come?
-Once again i note to all the fain forumers i am posting this because some of them do not go there-
My NEW mains:
Names: PowaCell|Spirtcost
Race/Classes: Human East-Bard|Barbarian-Shammy
Levels: 26|21
Future MC/Paths: Minstrel-ManaPath|Elder-PetPath
-Click my name for Were-Links, CM help, and Spell help.
Lets say you are level 15. you are not allowed to pickpocket anything that is yellow or anything higher than you because you will get a new pickpocket at the next level. once you get that pp, you can use it on higher lvl mobs.
32 Elf Cleric, Beautydivine, Diren's Hold. Going Faithful.
32 Cleric of the Mountaian Walkers.
Raid = Rang
My NEW mains:
Names: PowaCell|Spirtcost
Race/Classes: Human East-Bard|Barbarian-Shammy
Levels: 26|21
Future MC/Paths: Minstrel-ManaPath|Elder-PetPath
-Click my name for Were-Links, CM help, and Spell help.
Lomens 30 elf paladin
Hiwatori 20 elf wizard
Taedora 15 elf druid
Yuskayjr 12 dark elf warrior
Birth, pain, death. There is nothing more in life than these three things...
So I will pave this road to glory, sets the broken spirits free. From every cross-soaked nail pours endless rain with tears no eye should see. But they could fill our highest ocean, and the rivers inbetween. With every blade that flowers must grow then drown, with love our cruelest sea.
My NEW mains:
Names: PowaCell|Spirtcost
Race/Classes: Human East-Bard|Barbarian-Shammy
Levels: 26|21
Future MC/Paths: Minstrel-ManaPath|Elder-PetPath
-Click my name for Were-Links, CM help, and Spell help.
I'm an Official Unamed. Yep.
I'm working on this, havent made a choice and dont know what each one does. Thanks.
70 Lock Herbalism/ Alc
~~ save the flames for burgers, hot dogs and marsh mallows ~~~
1st i really cant seem to find much info about what the froms do.
2nd my character looking for a form is a 33 rge.
what type of cm's aare needed for upgrading your wereforms.
3rd is there a website that helps?
Finally quick pole.... Berserker or assassin?
Thank you for your posts and time happy hunting to all of you.
-Killiadar 38 Barb War (Diren Hold)
-Cattiebrae 47 Bab RGE (CLW)
-Driztdourden 32 Delf War (CLW)
-among many others on CLW and previously on Diren lvls 20-35
Lomens 30 elf paladin
Hiwatori 20 elf wizard
Taedora 15 elf druid
Yuskayjr 12 dark elf warrior
Birth, pain, death. There is nothing more in life than these three things...
So I will pave this road to glory, sets the broken spirits free. From every cross-soaked nail pours endless rain with tears no eye should see. But they could fill our highest ocean, and the rivers inbetween. With every blade that flowers must grow then drown, with love our cruelest sea.
Dead Raiser Gnome Necromancer lvl 20...Power Path
Nuking GNome Wizard lvl 12...Power Path
Ball Kicking Human Monklvl 1...Offense Path
Lomens 30 elf paladin
Hiwatori 20 elf wizard
Taedora 15 elf druid
Yuskayjr 12 dark elf warrior
Birth, pain, death. There is nothing more in life than these three things...
So I will pave this road to glory, sets the broken spirits free. From every cross-soaked nail pours endless rain with tears no eye should see. But they could fill our highest ocean, and the rivers inbetween. With every blade that flowers must grow then drown, with love our cruelest sea.
Lomens 30 elf paladin
Hiwatori 20 elf wizard
Taedora 15 elf druid
Yuskayjr 12 dark elf warrior
Birth, pain, death. There is nothing more in life than these three things...
So I will pave this road to glory, sets the broken spirits free. From every cross-soaked nail pours endless rain with tears no eye should see. But they could fill our highest ocean, and the rivers inbetween. With every blade that flowers must grow then drown, with love our cruelest sea.
I'm an Official Unamed. Yep.
Edited, Mon Oct 25 16:32:55 2004
Landarjon- 60 Death Knight
-Resurrection-
43rge clw....ARMY OF OLD WISE MEN
Landarjon- 60 Death Knight
-Resurrection-
My NEW mains:
Names: PowaCell|Spirtcost
Race/Classes: Human East-Bard|Barbarian-Shammy
Levels: 26|21
Future MC/Paths: Minstrel-ManaPath|Elder-PetPath
-Click my name for Were-Links, CM help, and Spell help.
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