| Bard |
| Life would be so boring without a bard around. Bards do it all. They sing, dance, play musical instruments, fight and, on occasion, help relieve overburdened purses. Their artistic talents stir a party into action, or cause enemies to rethink attacking. A bard may believe in various causes, but one thing they all have in common is the love of their art. Bards can be found among the human and elf populations. |
Class: Monk
Level: 30
Race: Monk
Form: Lionwere
Cm's: 0/365
Guild: Guildless
Server: Direns Hold
Name: Adjusted
Class: Alchemist
Level: 20
Race: Gnome
Form: [/Black]
Cm's: [Black]0/100
Guild: Guildless
Server: Castle Lightwolf
but you dont have to go to FP because its populated, when your lvl 8-10 you'll venture to fp eventually so dont wory about it.
but if you want more info on the game, may i suggest going to this web site youll find all youll need to know about the game here.
but the paths for a bard are,
combat= great for added dmg and soloing, and dueling i really dont know much about this path, i went power.
power=great for groups, it gives power to you, and your group members.
forms, anything you want really, you get to do a qst to get a form when yor 30, choices are,
lion, bear, wolf, gator, rat. choose whatever you want but rat is pointless to have when your a bard, rat is a more caster related form.
other than that i really dont know what to say other than check out that website. goodluck
60 Human Gypsy
Castle Lightwolf
You think this is the end, but its just the beginning
Edited, Mon Apr 17 23:00:35 2006
60 Human Gypsy
Castle Lightwolf
You think this is the end, but its just the beginning
-combat path re-cast is now 24 seconds
-level 1 strike(nimble strike) level 7 strike(artful strike) and the level 16 strike(graceful strike) are all 6 second re-cast
I have so many combat builds in my mind right now it's crazy(combat path mercenary, combat path minstrel, combat path gypsy, combat path bravo, combat path gypsy were-hunter I love combat path, always did lol)
Edited, Sat Apr 15 14:01:14 2006
ANY way, might as well ask another question ^^
Now I know most MMOs have like the "regular" areas to go level when you hit the specific level. I also remember that this game was kinda like that.. But more options as to where people go.
My main question is kinda... How long should I realistically solo before trying to group xp? I am still in Teth and just about level 10. I could solo for as along as possible.. But it's getting boring. I know FP is kinfa the hub. When should I jog my way down and hit coaches and start activialy LFG?
Thanks for the help! ^^
this is true, lv 10+ is the adverage lvl people start doing stuff
What are the stat requirements for Ministrel now?
All the web sites I have been to are way outdated...
Just looked at a post on the main forum about the the changes that either were just currently implemented, or are about to be soon... But wasn't quite sure exactly the min requirements now >< I hate coming back to a game in the middle of a change. lol.
Edited, Tue Apr 4 14:51:26 2006
WELL, I'm back. Figured I can juggle 2 MMORPGs!
Was a Druid... But it's been so long since i played, I'm wiping that character and starting over. Decided on playing a Bard. Not 100% sure yet if it is what I am going to stick with, but we'll see ^^
Just studying up on BRDs and re-teaching myself the game! w00t!
Well BRDs, ya got a new one enterin' the game. Mua ha ha!
post here if you need any help or suggestions on stat building for a bard.
Edited, Sat Apr 1 22:12:36 2006
I just hope to get an invite into a guild before to long. I hate playing an MMO and not even having other people chatting. Even when soloing, waching chatter is nice. You dont feel so alone ^^
Also trying out a NEC. Pretty sure BRD is going to be my main. But so far just soloing, leveling the early levels, and doing what quests I can solo... And the ones I cant trying to level up till I can ^^
my plan is a human gatorwere(unless were-hunters are fixed) flurry,combat, path minstrel.
gypsy mca re-placing the steal:
brilliant strike
base damage: 900
mod: 100% strength
cost: 425
recast: 6 seconds
new combat path:
Minor Flurry(lvl20) - Dmg -298 - recast 300 - cost 150 - Statmod STR 50%
Lesser Flurry(lvl30) - Dmg -474 - recast 300 - cost 225 - Statmod STR 50%
Flurry(lvl40) - Dmg -876 - recast 300 - cost 300 - Statmod STR 50%
Grevious Flurry(lvl49 non-specialized) Dmg -1178 - recast 300 - cost 368 - Statmod STR 50%
Mortal Flurry(lvl49 specialized) - Dmg -1250 - w/ Bleed DoT -25 - recast 300 - cost 368 - Statmod STR 50%
Mervol's Pulsing Flurry(lvl60) - Dmg -1360 - w/ Bleed DoT -90 - recast 300 - cost 350 - Statmod STR 50%
Mervol's Staccato Flurry(lvl60) - Dmg -1850 - w/ Bleed DoT -45 - recast 180 - cost 450 - Statmod STR 50%
Edited, Sun Mar 12 14:42:18 2006
Im a 24 bard, and ready to complete the 20 quest, but...which path to take? I want to be a kick ass bard, so later i plan on going Bravo.
But what do i choose here that would be good? the mana thingy or the other thingy?
Mog ~ Greenskin Shaman ~ The Fifth Star ~ Bechafen
Frograypir 50 Troll Warrior Bellow Path 0/620 CMs(Lion)
:-= Diren Hold =-:
Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.
if u pick the other one u are destended to a life of failure
what are the reqs for
1: Ministrel
2: Mercenary ( and is this a useful MC for a bard)
3:gypsy
4:bravo
I was told by a 60 brd on PPO not to use training pointsd until you know what MC your gonna go so im a lvl 12 brd with no stat changes.
I hear minstrels are gimps,compared to bravos and gypsys wouldnt this be true only if you say were trying to be a a dmg/dueling or soloing bard i mean minstrels are support what other purpose could they serve?
Tier Dal
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To take the time out of his life to post about hating something on a game?
What a freak.
Edited, Fri Sep 23 21:03:04 2005
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musicians knack-3
harmonic perfection-3
Gypsy req's: strenght-150 stamina-200
agility-200 dexterity-150
bardic expertise-4
choral celebration-3
Bravo req's: strenght-200 stamina-200
agility-200 dexterity-200
bravo's brawn-3 bravo's toughness-3
bravo's grace-3 bravo's knack-3
Mercenary req's: 500cm's spent(same as all master classes-so basically nothing is required)
Minstrel- this mc is more for support but this doesn't mean you can't go in there and quad(afterall you are a melee) =)
Gypsy- from all the offensive and defensive mods this mc gives i say it's a balanced mc, meaning good damage and you can take hits aswell
Bravo- this mc is more for the offensive bard because of the attack but it is well rounded aswell with the stats
Mercenary- this mc is great for raids because of the mca debuff(expose) and you can make your bard however you want with no requirements for this mc
overall it's whatever you want to do with your bard. you can't go wrong with any one of these mc's =) good luck and have fun.
Edited, Mon Sep 5 02:41:33 2005
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Karchok-Kerran Dirge
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31 top mid-lvl duelist on CLW
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I like minstrel to support.
Gypsy is the best hit-taker. Probably the least-useful-ness.
Haha, I am afraid that spot is taken, as is "best bard out there".. I am both the best bravo and best bard..
Bravo is all about the buff, the attack is decent, I still haven't bought it, maybe I will eventually.
As for gypsy vs. Bravo.
Bravo easily does more damage / more possible damage, but gypsy can take melee hits better, which really doesn't matter at 60, trust me.
But bon would know better than me seeing that he has one!
Second, minstrel sucks, sorry Sin, but I will always feel this way. Some day you will see the light.. When you are a 60 minstrel, and I am the 60 bravo (Which I am already, for those of you that don't know.) you'll be angry and jealous and such..
Third, I noticed people asking about bravo, if you don't wanna be gimp, don't put a single point into charisma, bah. Bravo is the best.
Were form, though a pain in the ass, in the end Gator serves you best and gives you the most TPs / HP / AC, as much as I hate to create mini-scotts, nobody listens to me anyways.
I would like to see a minstrel max the needed resists without hurting their stats and only losing a few HPS.
Pfft, anyways, noticed Sinenian is bringing up a little buddy bard or whatever, I have yet to find a bard that could even compare to the greatness that is me. (Sorry, have been trying not to brag lately, gotta let it out.)
Also, Sin, you've passed my warrior in CMs, more or less, I just deleted a WHOLE lot thursday, earlier today.. Got a whole new plan for him.
Also, I have a 20 warrior if you want to group with your shaman.
Somebodys gotta do the job.
Mmmmhmmm.....
Well that's true if you aren't going minstrel.
Lion is good too. You get Stam/Agi from form then even more Agi from buff.
You really only need to at 120 since your Reqs. will do the rest. I think a minstrel could have good resists, HP, and damage.
Mhmmm, that's why our guild calls you gimpscott :)
Ha ha. Jhet said that you bought: Hold Breath CMs, First Aid CMs, Looping Stride CMs and Cha CMs.
When would we group?
BTW, I am close to Gatorwere, I have 1,6700 faction, I'm expecting infection any kill now...
Calvin.........60 Hunter - Prophets of Zion
Bolador........60 Diviner - Prophets of Zion -
Icansolo......40 [ULTRA] Feral Gatorwere -Warrior - PoZ alts -
Putzy.........24 Power necro (future farmer)
-l- Ferran's Hope -l-
Also, faction doesn't effect infection, I got infected with 530 faction, I suggest South Barren Coast.
I'll give them to you:
Gypsy:
Req. Level: 55
STR: 150 STA: 200 AGI: 200 DEX: 150 Points spent: 500
Req. Masteries: Bardic Expertise 4, Choral Celebration 3
Bravo:
Req. Level: 55
STR: 200 STA: 200 AGI: 200 DEX: 200 Points spent: 500
Req. Masteries: Bravo's Grace 3, Bravo's Knack 3, Bravo's Toughness 3, Bravo's Brawn 3
Bravo
I wanna make a Bard that is a strong mana battery. what stats do i need to put training points into? any cm's i should specifically buy?
thanks guys for your help
chris
But if you want to be pure battery (Not what i sugject) here's what i sugject:
-Huge Agi to have buffs constantly on
-150 Cha by level 55 so you can go minstrel (biggest battery)
-Some Stam to take hits
-Some Str/Dex so your not too weak.
Normal bards would have lots of Str/Dex (Like me) but it's your toon.
i know for healer it affects heals, jsut curious?
also I made an elven bard, but i've been reading other posts that way Eastern humans are better. Is there any advantage to having an elven bard?
chris
STR 70
STA 80
AGI 80
DEX 80
Currently with the Human at lvl 7 I have these:
STR 75
STA 80
AGI 80
DEX 80
and I still have 3 TP's saved up with the Human.
Even though my CHA was higher with the Elf the Human is better because the top 4 stats are higher and i'm going Bravo.
Thank you Sinenian for all the help and i'll keep posting here if I need anymore help.
Humans are better for some Reasons:
-Better Toup Four Melee Stats *Str, Dex, Stam, Agi* (As you stated)
-OF/DF Mods (From CMs)
-LeaderShip (From CMs)
Also i sugject making a Human Easten instead of Western. You can get better coaches (ZK).
Sticking with Human is Good. I personally think Human Eastern is Better with Coaches and FP As main City. Though whichever you like is what you should keep.
BTW,
Why did you move to MF?
DH is much cooler!
Edited, Fri Mar 3 20:39:40 2006
So you're going to stay with bard? Cool.
If you get your bard high enough on DH, you could group with my alt (22 Shammy).
I also have a tank friend that could group with us.
STR 70
STA 80
AGI 80
DEX 80
im going mana path and mc to be is bravo.TY! for your replies pls post
Edited, Dec 9th 2006 8:53pm by Lonso
Start up You Agi/Stam.
I say:
1-20: Agi/Stam
20-?: Add Str/Dex Till Maxed
?-45: Agi
45-60: Lots of Stam (To AoEs and some Mana). Extra Str/Dex/Agi too.
Good Luck.
Mana Path is Great.
Bravo is Great DD.
Thats a link to the main forum. You will get more answers there.
-Get a good guild to help with quests.
-At your levels i sugject Nashiers. Once you ding around 13 Try undead camp. I don't really sugject madmen they don't drop enough.
-At level 30 Get lion were. I really love it. Buy Bite CM.
-At level 20 Start CMing.
-Get Crafted Armour. I sugject using atleast your strongest quest weapon, i like them.
-Your a bard so leveling is easy. You can easily get any group. Normal groups to keep up mana and damage. Healerless groups to use HoT Tick and dmg and bring back mana.
GL
Send me mail or tell if you need help.
Edited, Dec 9th 2006 8:52pm by Lonso
Ssuedyan - 28 Elf Enchanter
Xunder - 20 Human Bard
Soulsinner - 25 Human Magician
-----------------------------------
"Yo Hit This Stuff... Don't You Wanna Be Cool?"
*Tokes* *COUGH COUGH*
"Dude What Are You Doin?"
"I'm So High! Nothing Can Hurt Me!"
*Sticks A Rifle In His Mouth*
"NO!"
*BANG*
¤¤MARIJUANA KILLS¤¤
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20-?: Raise Str/Dex Until Maxed (To be a Melee, You don't Just Supply Mana and Buff)
?-45: Agi (To get High Mana Pool)
45-60: Mainly Stam, A little of the Rest (Stam to Take the New AoEs. The rest just to get mana up and do more damage.)
Cha- If planning to go minstrel, get to 120 then let the Minstrel Req. CMs take you to 150. If you aren't going Minstrel dont get cha
-You might have noticed, but from what i wrote, the answer is No, not all Agi/Stam.
Edited, Fri Nov 5 19:15:37 2004
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2ndPwr: Stamina
When i put my stats in at 1, it looked like agi gave double the mana as Stamina
Bloodchaos: 33 shadowknight (DK in training)
My bard is 57 and often when I look at the LFG tool there are sometimes 4 or 5 other bards registered..
Just depends, sometimes no healers are around so not many groups are able to be formed because people don't like to form odd groups..
Elves get some stats, and a self buff.
Also if you want you could take immortal. But if you wanna be a good buffer minstrel would probally be better.
Also Humans get more starting Sta/Agi.
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If you have two big mana buffs, you cast one.. Wait maybe a minute or so, cast second one.. It ends, cast first again..
Over and over and over..
It is infact, a pain in the ass..
PS: All I can tell is they wouldnt
do as much dmg with abiltys as
a minstrel would
Minstrel sucks..
Bravo > Gypsy or Minstrel
Minstrel, you need 150 Freakn' Charisma, YES, Charisma! And, all the Charisma modifiers on spells it's not worth it, no! Gives a 1k mana buff, but you lose 1k, which is gay! Gypsy aint bad, I considered it, but bravo looks MUCH better, although you will need to spend lots of time on it!
Good luck!
Edit: spellin and crap
Edited, Wed Oct 6 23:34:59 2004
[red] Buffer 37 Power Bard [red]
[green] Corrupter 43 Shadowknight [green]
[sm] [orange] PPO [sm] [orange]
And how could I "atleast use my own song instead of slayer's"?
Why would I?
I don't sing..
I don't write lyrics..
I want a good song's lyrics in my signature, I put in Slayer..
Go @#%^ yourself now, moron..
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Please, okay, just because you have PoT spells does not mean you don't need to worry about power, gotta remember those dances don't really do much for us, just benefit the group, dances basically give back what they cost, people don't realize this.
I see no point in charisma because it does not modify your path power buff, and doesn't modify your smaller power buff unless you buy the CMs for it, so I say bah to charisma as well as minstrel..
I personally preffered to kee my sta/agi about 50 points higher than my str/dex bases..
But I am going Bravo and that is all going to change soon, my top four stats will probably all be fairly close..
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My NEW mains:
Names: PowaCell|Spirtcost
Race/Classes: Human East-Bard|Barbarian-Shammy
Levels: 26|21
Future MC/Paths: Minstrel-ManaPath|Elder-PetPath
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After that Dex, Str, Cha. Havent gotten Cha too high so dunno if i really like it. Argh says hes maxed his str/dex i think dunno bout cha but its high. He says its great for grinds. I'm going to try to max my str/dex then try to get cha high. Agi coming in next then some stam. If i dont like that i will get more agi/sta. Also building depends on your MC, what MC are you taking?
My NEW mains:
Names: PowaCell|Spirtcost
Race/Classes: Human East-Bard|Barbarian-Shammy
Levels: 26|21
Future MC/Paths: Minstrel-ManaPath|Elder-PetPath
-Click my name for Were-Links, CM help, and Spell help.
Landarjon- 60 Death Knight
-Resurrection-
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Bah.. Mainly sta/agi and a good amount of str/dex is the way to go..
charisma sucks..
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As far as arguing with what cha does, I listed the actual mods for our songs, so there is no argument on what the benefit cha has. There is some and on a certain couple songs it is really nice, but I think SOE needs to work on the mods to make it more worth while for a minstral to work on cha. Maybe they could get rid of the 50 cha max for minstral and give an increase to the mods on all bard songs.
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raise str dex cha, slowly gettn agi sta to 100 over time, as a bard at higher lvls u cant run out of pow no matter how ur sta agi is, my bard is 45 and chain casts power paths i do str dex buff andnormal regen.. and all my attacks all are half recasted im always tat full pow i sometimees debuff and DoT. he has 410 str dex 200 sta agi 350 cha. at the phantoms i hit about 250 a hit so 1k a quad about give or take 100 dmg a quad.not bad plus abils add up, no1 in grp complains bout pow becueasee cha raises how mu h it tiks ive tested many time wether in book it says it does or not is does.str dex cha how i did it my sta agi 100 base str dex 140 or so cha like 200 or more lol.thats a dmg regen bard.
My NEW mains:
Names: PowaCell|Spirtcost
Race/Classes: Human East-Bard|Barbarian-Shammy
Levels: 26|21
Future MC/Paths: Minstrel-ManaPath|Elder-PetPath
-Click my name for Were-Links, CM help, and Spell help.
I'm an Official Unamed. Yep.
I'm an Official Unamed. Yep.
My NEW mains:
Names: PowaCell|Spirtcost
Race/Classes: Human East-Bard|Barbarian-Shammy
Levels: 26|21
Future MC/Paths: Minstrel-ManaPath|Elder-PetPath
-Click my name for Were-Links, CM help, and Spell help.
I'm an Official Unamed. Yep.
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http://eqoa.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=18
Go there for fast answers
My NEW mains:
Names: PowaCell|Spirtcost
Race/Classes: Human East-Bard|Barbarian-Shammy
Levels: 26|21
Future MC/Paths: Minstrel-ManaPath|Elder-PetPath
-Click my name for Were-Links, CM help, and Spell help.
[i plan on goin power path but i still want to do some damage]
This is the same answer i gave cano. Hope it helps. Seems like cano has it down pretty well too now =)
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then after 20 do dex str and cha(optional but with ur play style u prolly want)
and get perfect concertos and cha and pot
My NEW mains:
Names: PowaCell|Spirtcost
Race/Classes: Human East-Bard|Barbarian-Shammy
Levels: 26|21
Future MC/Paths: Minstrel-ManaPath|Elder-PetPath
-Click my name for Were-Links, CM help, and Spell help.
I'm an Official Unamed. Yep.
The spell argh is talking about is the storebought concerto line. It has a low cost, last 2 minutes, but only gives a minimal amount of pot, but will give a lot more power then the cost over time.
Edited, Thu Jul 29 20:13:47 2004
Karchok-Kerran Dirge
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I was just giving an example, as i said thats just for example. Because the real power cost and power given did not come in mind at the time. So i was just trying to explain how it worked, which is basically, it takes power to cast it but you get power back so it doesnt cost that much. True though i did mix up how long it lasts with the bought one. But to me it seems, the path one lasts for about half a min, while the bought one does last 2min. The bought one i know has a very low amount of PoT, and the path one is pretty high. Either way you should get the power back you used for the spell, and it helps the group greatly. The lv60 cm ability power buff (comes with minstrel) though does take 2k power to use, but gives back 1k and 1k to the whole group. Its very useful in my opinion.
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But the original question was about the path power spells being a sacrifice, which they are in that they do not do anything for a bard but break even.
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argh Wrote:
Okay, Only my last sentence was about that spell. The rest of what i wrote was just correcting my mistake of mixing up the power buff times. And trying to explain the misunderstanding we had. Read what i wrote again before my quote about the 60 bard cm.
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is a minstrel so i know he has an answer.. are the CHA mods on concerto rly good or not worth it??
Also this is to any minstrel that has reached 60 (argh) if you get this far) is the 1k mana thing that minstrels get needed for groups or will the groups power be kept up constitanly without it?
Edit: Meant argh not agrah
Edited, Fri Jul 23 16:11:49 2004
My NEW mains:
Names: PowaCell|Spirtcost
Race/Classes: Human East-Bard|Barbarian-Shammy
Levels: 26|21
Future MC/Paths: Minstrel-ManaPath|Elder-PetPath
-Click my name for Were-Links, CM help, and Spell help.
My NEW mains:
Names: PowaCell|Spirtcost
Race/Classes: Human East-Bard|Barbarian-Shammy
Levels: 26|21
Future MC/Paths: Minstrel-ManaPath|Elder-PetPath
-Click my name for Were-Links, CM help, and Spell help.
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I am not a minstral, but you would still need to keep up the power dances to keep up the power recovery for the group. The spell cost 2k power for you to cast and only gives you 1k so to keep power coming you will need to dance. It is just not efficient enough to keep a group going.
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-Killiadar 38 Barb War (Diren Hold)
-Cattiebrae 47 Bab RGE (CLW)
-Driztdourden 32 Delf War (CLW)
-among many others on CLW and previously on Diren lvls 20-35
At level 35, if you do the ability quest, you get "Selo's Accelerando" which lasts for about 10-15 mins.. Group SoW..
Bards are the best..
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